I would go with the Deere. This is because if it is mostly for tillage your gonna need that power. The Deere is all mechanical drive so you will get more power to the ground. the AC may be nicer and have more features, but the on the other hand. A friend of mine had an RT150 that the computer bored would go bad every two 2 years. This problem with the AC is very dangerous and expensive. When the bored went bad he couldn't stop the tractor and was running down the road. The only way to stop them is to shut off the key. To fix this problem it is a $2000 bill. Granted with the CVT you can get better fuel economy and a faster road speed because of being able to idle the engine speed down. It really is all on personal preference and dealer support. I personally i go with the Deere based on the fact that the dealer is only 15 miles away from me and the full mechanically driven transmission.
i would go with the john deere
deere here 2
deere you need the power and im willing to bet its heavier too
Im pretty biased towards the deere. We have an 8410 on our farm. Its the primary tractor on the farm. Plant with it, pull a 7 shank inline ripper, auger wagon, and do some fall tillage with it from time to time. It has about the same amount of hours on it as the one you are looking at it and has been a good solid machine for us.
i'm pretty biased towards agco and i would say go with the the agco we have two of the tractors you are talking about and very little problems with them, and i would take a cvt over a powershift any day. The 8410 has a fendt powershift trans that john deere owns good trans until you have to work on it i know this from experience because the 9670 agco allis that had a fendt trans in them and we had one fail by the time we found out what it was going to cost us a cool 40 grand to have it rebuilt we decieded to scrap the tractor and it only have 4000 hrs on it not saying a cvt can't fail but powershifts are very expensive to work on because of all the clutch packs are dealer had to replace a cvt trans because it failed it was around 12,500 put in. I'm not against john deere or anything but if i was going to buy a tractor it would be some sort of cvt either case or agco, or a ivt from deere. It's one of those things (cvt, ivt) once you have it you won't ever go back, but that's my opinion.
im not a fan of deere, i work for a new holland dealer, but i would buy the deere. the agco is nothing more then part massey ferguson, part fendt, and part cat challenger. the deere probly weighs more and weight can make the difference in getting the job done and spinning out. if you needed parts or service for the agco where would you go? im not sold on a tractor with a cvt or even deeres ive, but if a powershift transmission wasnt any good then why are the so common now?
The way we address situations like this is durability and resale. That's why I'd go with deere. I dont know much about agco but I do know deere will hold its value over the years.
I asked everyone I've seen the past week "Which tractor would you buy? Tractor 'A' with 270 hp and 4200 hours or Tractor 'B' with 230 hp, 2300 hours and is six years newer. They are the same price." The responses were all the same. "Buy the newer tractor with less hours."
I would look at it two ways. First, forget the nameplates and colors and look at the specifications.
JD 8410 DT200a
Engine Hours 4200 2300
PTO Hp (tested) 269.98 225.28
Drawbar HP (tested) 203.49 177.14
Weight (lb) 20,440 20,000
Transmission Powershift CVT
Then bring in the brand names and consider what dealer or dealers you would be working with for parts and service; Do you already have a good relationship with an AGCO or a JD dealer... Are they reasonably priced for parts... Are they disorganized and forget to order your stuff when they put the phone down...
Plus there's the personal preferences; Does either cab feel more comfortable... Would the lesser hp still give you room to expand to larger implements in the future...
I personally would go with the AGCO. To me the lower hours would be most important. We generally hold onto tractors for 10-15 years so we put a ton of use on them. If you don't think you'd be putting a lot of hours on the tractor and you think you might be looking to trade it within the next 5-7 years for something else then the JD might be better.
Hope this helps. Good luck with your decision.
We decided to go with the Deere 8410. The extra horsepower, tested durability, better cab visibility, & resale ended up being the key factors. Was a hard decision as we really liked the CVT. What really impacted us the most I think was Agco not making the "Orange" tractors anymore. We felt it would make it depreciate a lot faster. We don't plan on getting rid of our tractors anytime soon but you never know and since our operation is still young we just didn't want to take that chance. We aren't scared of buying an Agco and I'm sure it will be at the top of the list the next time we are looking for a tractor. Whatever fits what we are doing at the time is fine with us. Trying not to be too color blind given we just switched to Deere from White a little while ago. Thanks everyone for the help.
Grew up IH, tried everything I think at one time, got a Deere and would have nothing else. You'll always be able to sell your Deere, not so with others. And get a decent price, if it's in decent shape. So in my opinion, great choice,